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The name 'camelback' refers to the peculiar humped cast iron center frame to which the main shaft and pulleys and gearing were built up. The camelback has the most distinctive appearance of any drill press ever manufactured. This is an antique style of drill press manufactured around the end of the 19th century and well into the first half of the 20th century, and were still being manufactured until the 1970s. Today these antique style drills are often found for sale when older welding and blacksmith shops and farms go to auction. Some people today are skeptical of  these old drills - often mistakenly believing that these old drills don't work simply because they don't look like modern drill presses. But to those of us who use them, these old style drills are very practical and highly desirable for nearly every drilling job. Camelback drills turn much slower than modern drill presses, and this slower drill speed greatly extends drill bit life by reducing the heat build-up in the drill bit. And camelback drills operate much more quietly and smoothly than modern drill presses - thus reducing operator fatigue. These old drills were built solid to last a lifetime and this they certainly did, many camelbacks outlived their original owners and continue to serve multiple generations of metalworkers today!

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Strong, quiet, smooth running, long life.

These features were common among the larger camelbacks with drill socket sizes of 2MT and larger.

The drill turns forcefully and will easily bore the largest holes in steel. Camelback drills are substantially heavier than modern pipe mounted drill presses and the greater weight offers a much more steady feel with less vibration and lower noise level during use compared with a modern drill of similar size. Heavy cast iron parts last a long time, after all, the drills are still working after as much as a century of service.

Camelbacks manufactured during the later part of the era often have an auto-feed gear that allows the drill to bore holes by itself (the user must monitor the operation and shut off the auto-feed at the end of the process). The drill can be used with flat belts on a line shaft or mounted with a modern electric motor. A sash weight or counterweight hidden inside the central frame supports the weight of the quill and spindle. Using a counterweight rather than a spring to support the weight of the quill is an advantage over the modern drill press because the quill will remain stationary rather than suddenly jumping back up into the drill frame when the user disengages the feed lever.

Taper shank sockets and taper tooling continue to be the standard today. MT taper shank (morse taper shank) drills, reamers, and chuck arbors are available from most large machinery suppliers in the U.S. Modern drilling machines continue to use MT shank tooling so we can reasonably expect MT tooling to be widely available for many years to come. Taper shank tooling is easy to use and the reader can learn more about this tooling by visiting my webpage here: http://www.beautifuliron.com/mttaper.htm

Typical sizes of drill sockets available. Most camelbacks have # 2MT and # 3MT taper sockets. These two taper sizes are the most numerous as they are used for the majority of drilling applications between 1/8" to 1-1/8" that would have been typical in blacksmith's shops, machine shops, and other small contractors businesses. Larger drills were also available and drills with # 4MT - 6MT and these larger machines were employed in the large manufacturing shops. The larger drills were of course less numerous but can still be found, although it is much tougher to get the owner to part with the larger camelbacks as there are no inexpensive modern replacements.

In addition to the sizes discussed above, numerous 1MT socket table-top drill presses were also available. The small drills were cheaply made just as modern small drill presses are cheaply made today, and consequently few survive, and none of the small table-top models are worth the effort to repair once they break.

One man's castaway is another's treasure. While the Camelback has been literally sent to the antique scrap heap by most modern service and industrial businesses, it still offers a tremendous serviceability to the modern blacksmith and ornamental iron or fabrication shop. Ugly and strange as many people would probably find the appearance of these old drills, these machines are wonderful to work with. So why then do most 'modern' businesses discard these drills?

Possible reasons that most "modern" businesses don't want camelback drills

1. Most businesses today want a drill that turns fast. The camelback turns very slow compared with a modern pipe-mounted drill press. The typical business owner today knows little or nothing about drills and recommended drill bit speeds.
2. Camelback drills do not meet OSHA standards due to open belt and gearing design. Typically a business prefers to purchase only machinery that is ready for use immediately after purchase, with no additional work such as building the guards that are needed to bring this drill up to OSHA standards. This is probably the most legitimate reason for purchasing a modern style drill rather than a camelback.
3. Businesses today want a drill that is light and easy to move. Why I don't know. Maybe they plan to pack up and move like nomadic camel herders or something. The drill is meant to be set up in one place and not moved. OSHA requires that machinery be bolted to the floor. It is hard to move when bolted down anyway. Again this harkens back to the lack of understanding by management concerning how machinery is actually used.
4. These drills require regular maintenance on a daily and weekly basis. The camelback must be oiled and wiped clean daily or suffers excessive wear or deterioration of important metal surfaces. By comparison modern pipe-mounted drill presses have sealed bearings that never receive lubrication during the life of the drill, and few lubrication points that require oil, such as feed shaft bearings and table clamp joints and threads. All modern shops pay lip service to equipment maintenance. They don't actually take care of the tools except to put them away after use. A modern pipe mounted drill is quickly discarded and replaced when it wears out or breaks down a few years later. The camelback would require more maintenance than modern workers accomplish and business managers are aware of this so it is a legitimate reason for not purchasing a camelback.
5. Camelback drills are not supported with parts and service. This means the owner must make all parts and repair the drill themselves. A good reason for businesses today to not purchase a camelback. Machine shops on the other hand don't find this to be a disadvantage. This reason for not purchasing only applies to shops that do not perform their own tool maintenance.

Counterpoints why a camelback drill is desirable in a blacksmith's shop

1. Camelbacks turn slowly. This is a great advantage! The camelback will drill at the recommended speed, or slower, for a given size of drill bit. The slower speeds will not burn drill bits. The camelback turns with greater force than modern drill presses due to the effects of gear and pulley size ratios. The camelback will drill large holes faster than a modern high-speed drill press.
2. Guards and screens can be made easily to bring these drills up to OSHA standards. Obviously fabricating guards is not a advantage for buying a drill. But the value of the slower speeds makes obtaining a camelback worthwhile and well made guards dramatically improve the resale price of a drill that is in good condition. Lack of guards causes prices of these drills to remain low as modern businesses do not bid up prices at sales for a drill that run them afoul of OSHA. If the owner works alone then making guards isn't required. But if the drill is to be used by others, then guards will be required. Look farther down this page for suggestions on belt guards.
3. These drills are heavy. This is a great advantage! Heavy weight absorbs vibration and noise, and makes the camelback more comfortable to use. An excellent advantage.
4. Machinery from the bygone era of industrialization required regular and daily care- oiling and wiping. The required maintenance dissuades modern businesses from purchasing these drills. Consequently reducing the price bidding at sales. The maintenance is easy and quick. A drop of oil in each of the oil holes, a squirt in each bearing cup. Wipe once with a rag. Do this once every couple weeks if the drill is not in use. When compared with the difference in drilling time for holes larger than 1/2", camelback will complete the job in less than half the time. A set of 4 holes 1-1/8" may take an hour with a camelback. How long would it take with a modern drill that lacks the power to turn the bit in large holes? How many hours would be spent sharpening bits that burned up because the modern drill turned to fast? A great trade off- we spend a few minutes a day caring for our equipment, and reduce drilling time by roughly half of the time that would have been required by a modern drill press.
5. Camelbacks are not supported by parts and service. The only advantage here is that prices of camelbacks are held down by lack of sales support. If the drill is broken or worn, it will need parts and repairs that can only be made by the user. If the drill is broken, then bid price is lower.

Still a popular design. These are one of the most sought after drills on the market for ornamental iron shops, blacksmiths, small steel fabricators, mechanics, farmers, and hobby smiths. And when in good serviceable condition, these drills often bring substantially higher bids at auctions and private sales than the typical modern style drill press. This is because these drills are built for heavier work than their typical modern counterparts, are comfortable and convenient to use, and turn slowly enough to reduce the breakage or damage to expensive bits.

Let me give you an idea of how popular these drills are today. At almost every sale that I have attended when a camelback drill was being sold, the bids start high and go up fast, often starting at double the price of a new drill press. These drills often were often among the top priced items of the sale. Even drills that are not complete or that are in poor repair, will receive high price offers.

A good camelback drill is popular enough that once found, a prospective buyer must move quickly to close the sale or risk seeing another buyer take it home instead, often resorting to secrecy to avoid alerting other buyers to the discovery of a really good drill that has been offered for sale. I delayed publishing this page to my website for this reason; to avoid alerting readers in my local area to the fact that I found a really nice drill for sale at a lower price than a lesser quality drill would have brought at auction.

Where to find these drills. Machine shop auctions, farm auctions, blacksmith and welding shop auctions. Machine and tool auctions. Used machine distributors and dealers. Look on the internet for machinery sales. Sometimes they can be found at antique and steam engine shows and swap meets. I found a really nice drill that was over 130 years old and still in excellent condition at an antique tractor swap meet. Occasionally machine shops sell excess equipment. One of my drills came from a machine shop that bought excess equipment as a sort of package deal to get another machine that they wanted. They ended up selling me one of those drills. Camelback drills are tough to find. Their owners seldom are willing to part with one of them. But once the drill becomes available, be prepared to spend several hundred dollars at least. More if the drill is in full working condition.

How they are used.

Drill feeds and quills. The basic and most common style feed levers were a single long handle with a clutch style lever handle - to adjust position on the notched feed shaft. The authors Excelsior drill (pictured at right) is an example of a long feed handle with clutch lever grip. The clutch lever on the feed handle, pulls the pawl out of the notches in the feed shaft wheel (to which the handle rotates around). When the clutch is squeezed, the feed handle can be positioned over a different notch in the feed shaft wheel, and releasing the clutch allows the pawl to re-engage in the notches of the feed shaft wheel. This action allows the camelback feed handle to be positioned at any point or height that the user desires. An additional feed handle mounted to the opposite end of the feed shaft (on the opposite right side of the drill) can also be used to move the drill quill up and down -while the user is squeezing the clutch thus allowing the feed shaft to rotate freely inside the long feed handle. This style of feed handle with its pawl lever, is much more comfortable to work with compared with the 3-lever handle of a typical modern drill press . The camelback drill feed handle is longer than the typical 3-lever feed handle on the modern drill press, and the longer length allows the mechanic to apply the same force to the drill bit with less effort because of the extra leverage of the handle. Visible in the photos (photos near right and middle right), the clutch pawl and notched feed shaft wheel wheel are clearly visible. Look closely in the first photo - the clutch pawl can be seen to be engaged in a notch in the feed shaft wheel. A think clutch link rod is seen exposed below the quill feed handle, and this link rod is connected inside the quill feed handle to the pawl on the end of the feed handle. Also visible in the photos (photos near right and middle right), the auto feed drive gears can be seen mounted underneath and behind the feed shaft gear.

Another style of feed lever. Here is a close up view (photo at right) of the sliding quill support arm and quill feed lever on the authors Cincinnati-Bickford. The feed lever is simple plain round rod with flat side machined into it. This feed lever is adjustable by loosening the jam screw and sliding the feed handle to the desired position, and then re-tightening the jam screw against it again. The jam screw is threaded into the end of the feed shaft. The jam screw has a 'T' handle welded to it so that the mechanic can quickly loosen and tighten the feed lever without using a wrench. The feed lever is seen here set up with equal length on both sides of the feed shaft.

Power auto-feed. Some camelbacks also offered a powered auto-feed function that used a belt to transmit power to turn auto feed screw that in turn, forced the feed shaft to rotate downward forcing the drill into the work. This was a throwback to the earlier drills that used a series of ratchets and levers, like those found on the auto-feed mechanisms of hand cranked post drills. At right again is the authors Excelsior drill for this example. A small jack-shaft style stepped pulley is mounted on the drill drive shaft above the power take-off for the auto feed. Auto feed speeds can be set by moving the belt onto different steps of the step-pulley.

NOTE: the feed handle must be stowed in the upright position to use auto feed. The on the back of the clutch lever of the feed handle there is a spur. The spur protrudes through the slot of the feed handle and extends a several inches through the opposite side of the feed handle. The spur has a curved taper shape and a notch close to the widest part of the spur nearest the feed handle. The curved tapered shape allows the clutch lever to be squeezed underneath a peg mounted to the drill frame. When the feed handle is stowed in the 'up' position, the spur on the clutch lever is squeezed under the peg and the notch in the spur catches under the peg. With the feed clutch handle squeezed, the pawl is disengaged from the feed shaft and the feed shaft can rotate freely. And with the feed handle thus stowed, the quill can be moved freely up or down as needed or instead, the auto feed can now be engaged.

The small belt turns a shaft that is mounted parallel to the drill drive shaft. Through a worm and right angle gear this shaft turns a vertical shaft, and the vertical shaft turns a second horizontal worm shaft.. Normally the worm gear and drill feed shaft gears are not engaged. Since the auto feed drive belt is constantly turning with the drill drive, the worm drive must be disconnected from the feed shaft when not needed. To engage the auto-feed, the second horizontal worm is lifted into position with a lever on the front of the drill. This can be done with the drill running. The worm turns slowly so the engagement lever (painted red in picture at right) is lifted and held up until the worm engages the teeth of the feed shaft gear and the lever seats in its detent. To disengage, the release lever is pulled down and the engaging lever unseats and falls.

Sash weights support the weight of quill and spindle. The quills on camelback drills are usually supported with a chain and sash weight hidden inside the central frame of the machine. A couple of pulleys allow the chain support to move freely within the drill as the drill quill moves up and down. One of these pulleys can be seen above the quill at the point where the chain support comes out of the central frame. Both examples at right show the chain exiting the drill frame above the quill and fastening to the top of the drill quill. The picture (near right) shows the authors Cincinnati Bickford drill with a sliding quill support arm. In this case the chain fastens to an arm that in turn fastens to the top of the quill. The opposite end of the arm is fastened by way of a chain, to the rear of the sliding quill support. The arm moves up and down along with the quill support and in this way, allows the counterweight to always apply lifting force nearly straight up, at any height that the quill support arm is raised to.

The photo (above far right) shows the authors Excelsior and here the chain fastens directly to the top of the quill.

Sash weights and chain supports are quite different from modern drill presses that use a spring return fastened to the opposite end of the feed lever shaft from the feed lever. With a sash weight or counterweight there is no tendency for a camelback quill to quickly snap back upward suddenly if the user lets go of the feed handle. Instead the quill will often remain stationary until the user lifts the quill upward again. This is handy in that the user can place the drill close to the work to make adjustments without need for holding the feed lever down against any spring pressure. The quill will simply stay in place at what ever height the user most recently moved the quill to. However a ratcheting style feed handle will rotate downward under its own weight unless stowed in the upright position.

Jacks shafts and line shafts. Looking at the pictures here at right of my Excelsior 20-inch drill, this is a fairly typical example of a flat belt style drive with a jack shaft. The stepped pulleys allow three different combinations or speed changes. One set of step pulleys mounted directly on the drill's drive shaft at the top of the machine and the other mounted to the jack shaft mounted lower down on the machine, in this case the jack shaft mounted at the foot or base of the drill. Most shops during the turn of the century (1800's-1900's) used a line shaft driven by either a steam engine, internal combustion engine, or sometimes an electric motor, to supply power or motion to all of the tools connected to it. Tools and machines were most often connected to the line shaft by a series of belts and pulleys. The jack shaft is a transmission or power take-off shaft that transfers power from an existing source such as the existing motor or line shaft pulleys.

Jack shafts in use. In addition to the step pulley mounted on the jack shaft, there were also a pair of pulleys mounted to the end of the jack shaft. One of the pair being fixed permanently to the jack shaft so that turning it would force the jack shaft to turn, and the other pulley mounted as a 'free' pulley that could spin freely without causing the jacks shaft to turn. The pair of pulleys were connected to the line shaft through a power belt. A shifting fork was mounted beside the pair of pulleys on the jack shaft and the power belt slipped between the tines of this fork. By use of a spring loaded pedal or other device, the shifting fork could be moved and used to force the power belt off the free pulley, onto the fixed pulley. Normally the shifting fork would be spring-loaded to hold the power belt on the free pulley allowing the drill to remain still until, the drill operator moved the shifting pedal or lever forcing the belt onto the fixed pulley causing the drill to rotate.

Most of us today don't use a shifting fork on our jack shafts. Instead the motor drive belt is placed on the fixed pulley. We simply flip a switch to start the motor. Step pulleys are still used for speed changes. The motor is turned off and the belts are moved to the appropriate step pulley.

Changing speeds with step pulleys. To change speeds, shut off drill and disconnect it from its electrical power source. Since the belt is already tight, we need some slack to shift from one pulley to the other. So after deciding which direction the belt must move (is the belt to be moved to the rear or to the front?) the belt will first be moved off the larger of the pulley steps that is it on. It should be noted that the top and bottom pulley are mounted in opposite directions. The smaller end of the one pulley facing the opposite direction of its mate. Take a look at the photo at the top of this page to see the directions that each of the pulleys placed. The pulley step on one shaft will be large while the corresponding pulley step on the opposite shaft will be smaller. Walk the flat belt off the larger to the smaller pulley. Then at the other end of the belt, walk the belt over the larger pulley and turn the pulley as needed to allow the belt to climb onto the pulley.

Maintaining a Camelback drill.

Oil everything! Bearing oil cups are easy to access. Every shaft that turns or moves or slides, requires oil. If it moves inside of, next to, or against another part, it needs lubrication. If you can't find the lubrication holes than it is possible that they have plugged with dirt or have been painted over. Find the lubrication holes and clean them out. Fill them with oil at least once a week and all oil cups must be filled daily when the drill is in use. Oil cups should be plugged with felt to prevent dirt and abrasives from entering the oil holes and contaminating bearings. The felt acts as a screen to prevent dirt and debris from entering the bearings, and oil is simply added on top of the felt and allowed to seep through slowly to the bearings. The oil cups are normally found on top of the bearing caps of large shafts such as the jack shaft bearings and the upper drill drive shaft that runs at the top of the drill. Old drills used babbitt bearings for all large shafts. All babbitt bearings require daily oiling. Again, oil everything! If it is iron or steel and it moves against something else, oil it. Some parts have no holes for oiling, such as the table height jack screw and table slide surfaces. In this case the oil is simply applied to the joints of the jack screw and the jack screw threads. Oil is wiped onto the sliding surfaces of the frame post where the table slides up and down on the outer surface.

Motors. Most of the time we find these drills with antique motors still installed. The antique motors seldom are worth saving. Most are junk. Be prepared to replace the motor before putting the drill into service. Big drills don't necessarily need big motors. These drills turn much slower than modern drill presses. Consequently the slower speeds mean that the motor on these drills have more leverage or torque available. I used a 1-horsepower motor on a drill with a 3MT socket. So far this size has worked fine. If the motor should prove underpowered in the future, I might change to 1-1/2 horsepower. So plan on 1-horsepower for a 2MT socket drill and either a 1 or a 1-1/2 horsepower motor for a drill with a 3MT socket.

Installing a electric motor on a line shaft driven drill. Mounting electric motors on camelbacks is difficult at best. The simplest way is to bolt a heavy steel plate to the top of the cast iron base of the drill, and mount the motor to the plate. At right is my Excelsior with a 5/8ths-inch steel plate cut to wrap around the center frame of the drill and support a motor near floor level.

The T-slots in the base plate make excellent fastening points for installing bolts. The base is cast iron and is not nearly so strong as steel, so use plenty of bolts and plan to tighten them only a small amount to avoid breaking the T-slots in the base. I used ten 5/8ths inch carriage bolts with the heads ground slightly flat on two sides to allow them to pass through the T-slots in the base of the drill.

The plate is cut to rest across the whole of the drill base.  Spreading the placement of the bolts over the entire area of the T-slots, so that the force of tightening the bolts is spread evenly across the area of the mounting slots. The plate curves around the center frame of the drill and extends to the back of the drill, almost to the fixed pulley or (in this case) the v-belt pulley. Keep in mind that the motor must be located far enough away from the jack shaft so that it doesn't interfere with the flat belt that drives the drill. The plate should be balanced well enough that it can rest on base of the drill without falling off.

The motor can be mounted to either the end of the mounting plate, or  as used on my drill, a small platform can be welded to the mount plate and the motor mounted to the platform. Slots are cut in the back of the mounting plate or motor platform for adjusting the motor. 

Repairing the Camelback drill.

Repairing a camelback drill requires expert ability in a variety of skills. Machining gears or shafts, forging iron and steel parts, welding critical machined cast iron parts, setting up and pouring new babbitt bearings, and expert mechanical skills in inspection and repair of machinery. If you do not posses expert skills in each type of repair then do not attempt them until you have been trained. A botched repair can destroy a part or greatly reduce its value.

Welding cast iron parts. Cast iron parts can be welded using the proper cast iron welding techniques and correct electrode. Cast iron welding requires a great amount of peening and grinding/cleaning between each pass with the welder. If you don't understand why cast iron welding requires peening then don't attempt it until you learn why it is necessary. Gouge and chamfer all weld area deeply. Cast iron type electrode has very poor penetration and the only effective way to regain the full strength of the part at the break, is to begin the weld as close to the center of the break as possible. Never allow the use of standard welding electrodes for steel, as any electrodes for steel will react with the cast iron and cause a very hard and brittle weldment and will eventually fail or prevent any other type of machining such as re-drilling holes. Use only machinable nickel type electrodes. The nickel rod does not weld over flux that remains from the previous pass, and neither does it penetrate small narrow gaps between pieces. All flux and narrow gaps must be gouged and down to bare metal and wide rounded bottoms of the chamfers. Expect to see more than half of each weld bead removed during cleaning and gouging between each pass. If this is too expensive for you then you don't posses the skill to do the work anyway. Cast iron welding is not for amateurs.

Repairing botched welds. If a drill is acquired with a botched weld from a previous repair job, there are still ways to undo the damage and give a good repair. For example a drill is acquired with a broken bracket that the previous owner attempted to weld with standard steel type electrode. All of the effected area that was filled in with the standard type of electrode for welding steel, will have been destroyed and cannot be saved. The entire failed weld will need to be cut out with a grinder.

A steel patch can be used to fill in any gaps between the parts to be welded. Steel can be welded to cast iron using the same welding techniques and welding electrode as for cast iron welding. Keeping in mind that the cast iron side of the repair still suffers the same stresses from welding despite the presence of the steel patch. And due to the presence of cast iron in the repair, only machinable nickel welding rod can be used. The same rules still apply for gouging and chamfering the effected repair area, and peening and grinding the weld between each pass.

The cast iron electrodes are made of an alloy containing nickel. This alloy is desirable because it does not absorb large amounts of carbon from the weld area and therefore does not harden after welding. When the weld is completed, both the fill material and parent material are soft enough to be drilled and machined as though made of soft cast iron.

Removing base and table support.

The camelback drill stands upright in a support clamp specially cast and machined in the base. The central post of the drill is hollow and contains the sash weight that acts as a counter-weight to support the weight of the drill spindle and other parts. The sash weight is hung inside the central post with a chain that extends up through the top curve or arch that supports the drill spindle and feed assembly. With one end of the chain fastened to the top of the sash weight, and the other end of the chain hung over a pulley mounted in a slot or hole in the curve of the post and finally connected to the top of the drill feed quill.

To gain access to the sash weight, or to remove other large parts such as the table support bracket, the base plate must first be removed from the bottom of the drill. Place the drill on its side, on a suitable support such as a low table or horses or the back of a truck. Loosen the clamp bolt that secures the base around the bottom of the post. Apply penetrating oil and work the base from side to side to loosen it and slide it off the bottom of the post.

With the bottom of the post exposed, the mechanic now has access to the inside of the post, and can also remove other parts such as table support.

Belt guard for a camelback.

Guards are necessary for drills used in shops that need to comply with insurance requirements or OSHA rules. They are not difficult to make but do require some planning because there are no construction plans or designs available. So where does the owner begin when attempting to build a guard?

Photos of shops from the late 19th century and early 20th century would be a good start. At left is a photo found in the book Samuel Yellin ~ Metalworker by Jack Andrews, ISBN 1-879535-05-X. The example is from a collection of photos of the Yellin blacksmith shops from around the mid 1920s, and shows an excellent example of a belt guard for a camelback drill. Look closely because the drill in the photo looks very much like the Excelsior that is featured on this webpage.

Don't limit the search however to only old photos. Sometimes current owners of camelback drills build guards, so look also for photos and examples of camelback drills used in modern shops.

A simple framework of angle iron filled in with expanded metal screen, will serve as a good enclosure to prevent personnel from entangling in the belts and pulleys and gears. Hinged at appropriate points to allow the screens to open for easy access to oil and maintain the machine.

Buying and inspecting a drill.

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Other websites featuring camelback drills.

W.F.&J. Barnes 20 inch drill http://andy.sargent.net/boring/default.htm - Very nice drill. No back gears but this drill has variable speed auto-down feed. Excellent motor mount for modern motor.

Page updated September 16, 2019

Attention stupid! Working with old machinery is Not for amateurs!  Due to the age of these drills, most parts are unavailable and must be made by a competent machinist. These drills are obsolete! Many of the original manufacturers have gone completely out of business or have changed ownership and no longer stock parts for the old drills. Buyer beware! You are on your own if you buy one of these old drills. There are no longer any parts made for these drills. If you break something, then you manufacture your own parts. If you have a problem with making your own parts then DON'T buy one of these drills. Are you an idiot? Are you too stupid to understand this? I can't help you if you buy a broken drill. In fact I just don't care. If you buy one of these drills and it doesn't work and you aren't skilled enough to figure it out on your own, then don't bother me because I can't help you. These drills are for experts that can figure these things out on their own. Not for morons that buy broken tools and expect everyone else in the world to help them for free. If you have to ask me how to do it, then you haven't got what it takes to repair one of these old drills.

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